The damage control from Ashley Morgan Smithline’s statement made under oath that she was manipulated by Evan Rachel Wood, Ilma Gore and ambulance-chasing attorneys looking to make a quick buck to “misremember” her relationship with Marilyn Manson (Brian Warner) has been mainly self-serving denials from those attorneys afraid of being disbarred, and Wood simply denying everything and posting Instagram screenshots of statements allegedly made by Smithline, apparently made out of “fellowship” or possibly added-in by someone who was given access to her Instagram password (i.e. Gore).
Meanwhile. Megan Fox, the host of the podcast The Fringe and who attacks just about anything that seems hypocritical regardless of what side of the political spectrum, is suggesting on PJ Media that HBO should be added to Manson’s defamation lawsuit. Fox claims that she viewed the Phoenix Rising documentary a few months ago with an “open mind” and came out of it believing that 90 percent of it was “all lies.” There was “no attempt at all to fact-check the allegations” and that the documentary “was simply the fantasy of Evan Rachel Wood and a bunch of other women who were never seriously questioned about their wild claims.”
Fox goes on to
say that she kept asking herself “this is a crime?” concerning allegations of
BDSM-type “abuse” that they “signed-up” for at the time, but now “didn’t like it
after the fact.” To Fox, it just sounded "worse" than it actually was because it wasn’t
just one or two women, but (nearly) everyone who supposedly had a relationship
with Manson who was complaining about this. Most people who worked around him
thought Steve Jobs was an “asshole” as a person, but is that a “crime”? Most people who know Manson well don't even say that.
Fox also noted that the women constantly “contradicted themselves.” There was not one single shred of evidence presented by any of the women to back-up their claims of abuse. Wood showed what she claimed to be a “scar” from one alleged abuse incident which she “keeps” as “evidence.” That is like believing that Amber Heard is still keeping that “zit” bruise on her cheek as “evidence” in 2022…
…to "prove" that the “bruise” from the 2016 TRO was “real”:
The most “telling parts” were when the alleged “victims”—all “adults” at the time--all admitted they could leave and did, yet many of them came back on their own volition. Fox observes that during her appearance on The View, Smithline was clearly having trouble believing her own stories, and it would have taken a just few skeptical questions to have made her “crack” then.
Wood on her own appearance
on The View seemed unable to describe
the “abuse” she allegedly suffered when asked to repeat it without a script, claiming it would
six hours to tell it—meaning six hours to remember her story or re-read and memorize the script. Wood
claiming that she was a “minor” at the age of 19 also shows us the degree to
which “victimization” is simply a matter what one wants or thinks people are
supposed to believe without question because that is what the times requires them to believe. No personal responsibility required, as Wood tries one's credulity by insisting she was completely "naive" and couldn't think for herself (see also Eliza Bleu).
I personally have not seen the “documentary” nor intend to, but it does appear that HBO has succumbed in the MeToo era to conduct such smear campaigns without evidence. Sure, it’s easy to go after a dead person (Michael Jackson) who can't defend himself, but this documentary helped to destroy a living person’s life today. So what did other people who claim to have gone into it with an “open mind,” or admitting to disliking Manson and were willing to believe anything against him? We can find that on Reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/marilyn_manson/comments/tfyizw/phoenix_rising_discussion_thread/ along with a few excerpts:
I am not really a Manson fan. I definitely leaned towards believing Evan's accusations prior to watching the documentary. Now, after watching, I support Manson 100%. The doc was an utter failure. It was extremely biased and attempted to indoctrinate the viewer with new ideology on what constitutes "abuse" to convince you that what Wood experienced was in fact abuse. But the abuse narrative didn't always match the details of her story, which sounded mostly like a naive relationship and consensual acts that, many years later, had become embarrassing and very regrettable for her…I believe that once she started this campaign against Manson there was no turning back, and she has been willing to embellish and oversell the accusations to justify her actions. Manson doesn't deserve this. While he may very well be a flawed individual who crossed the line, there is not nearly enough substance in this film to justify his public lynching.
Just watching it now, can't believe some of this self gratifying bull shit. Just watched the bit where she is saying she didn't have a sex education. And the way she found out she was normal was that she just happened to find a fucking porno mag on the side of the road.
Also, she spoke as if he was the bogey man
who’s coming after her. Like, she supposedly got twitter death threats and
moved her family like she was running from Jason Vorhees. Also, she threw her
dad under the bus after the story of her staying with him, which looked like
thanksgiving, twenty minutes later she’s talking about how her dad didn’t do
what he was supposed to and abandoned her. Then after “leaving” Manson, she
comes back and sees the kneeler.. and then acts like she was in another horror
movie. Maybe just going back for more meth. Wait she didn’t know what meth was
and Manson “kept her awake”. Sure…
…And also, she goes right back to the boyfriend she left for Manson, then says that he was victim shaming her. I’ve dated a girl that probably felt victim shamed. Not right away. The first time I heard the abuse stories I was terrified and scared for her and we sort of bonded. A year later the stories had cracks. She would constantly tell them (in weird moments out of nowhere)but slightly differently. Get mad when I would question the facts because in my mind they were different than before and less plausible now. We got in a fight, she stayed at her friends house. Came home with a black eye, said she was raped by two “***er (which was distressing, never heard her use the big N before) and when I asked if she went to the cops she of course didn’t and when I went to call she told me not to…this went on until I found out she was just drunk and had a fight with her friend who kicked her out of her apartment. Sorry, just had to get that one out. Let’s say Evan was giving me Holley vibes.
Another thing I thought was funny about the doc... She saved a giant painting done by Manson all these years, then suddenly decided to deface it and make it her own after all these years... on camera... when she's happening to be making a documentary on it. Not to mention why did she save all their old love letters (and a huge painting) if she's that tormented by the memories? Pretty sure most sane people throw away old love letters when they break up with someone at some point. Especially if they cause emotional damage. Everything about that doc was so staged and pitifully done.
A response to someone who claims that “victims” have different ways of “dealing” with such artifacts, and who doesn’t “understand” why anyone would disbelieve the accusations when so many women are making them: That’s everyone with PTSD. Avoidance of triggers is a required symptom to get the diagnosis. I’m not saying she doesn’t have PTSD, I’m saying clearly the items her alleged abuser gave her isn’t triggering for her. So he’s most likely not the source of her PTSD. It’s easy to dismiss because of all inconsistencies, lies and manipulation that has come to light. The proof of Ilma Gore as a puppet master, contacting and providing scripts to alleged victims. How can you know all this, and still believe their words? Their exact same, scripted words?
It just kinda felt like ERW has bounced from person to person looking for a home and ends up in weird or unhealthy or unbalanced situations that will further hurt her (this includes that Gore woman who kinda seems like she was running the show) since she seems very lost.
By the end of the doc I was siding with Manson. She didn’t have any evidence that he was abusive and I get the feeling that she has some serious emotional/mental issues. I actually believe that she believes she was abused, but I’m not buying it.
“I didn’t know what meth was” is ridiculous. She was in the movie 13, they talk about meth…not to mention anyone born in the late 80’s knows what meth is because it legit tore this country apart. When that Cleary guy says the word on tour was SHE was doing more drugs than Manson she immediately jumps on him saying it was HIM.
I went into this 1000% not even needing to be convinced of MM guilt. I was like oh, this happened I don't even need to be convinced - let's just hear the story because I love docs. I really like ERW as an actor and have only ever felt indifference to dislike for MM - just to be clear where I'm coming from. Literally 15 minutes or so in, ERW said something about her childhood and then it immediately cut to her mom who was repeating the exact sentence, word for word. I was like hmmm, I guess they're just showing how credible her story is? As the doc went on, it began to feel incredibly scripted. I felt like the entire thing was written out word for word, scene for scene. Like, the scene where she tells her kid "I love you", then he says "I love you more" and it goes on for like 1 whole minute. That scene felt so unreal - how does that happen suddenly when you're getting filmed?...
… There were so many moments where it was like who does that while they're getting filmed?! Then at times I was like oh wow, I really feel for her, that's awful. And then it would be overshadowed by like the joy in her face in re-telling the story and how perfectly stated everything was - like no one is that good at talking about things just straight from their memories. Even down to her crying...I hate to say this, but it felt so fake. The scene where she is either actually talking to the FBI and grabbing her hair or she is literally in an empty office to let HBO film her re-enactment of the meeting - I have no clue what's weirder. That was a very, very weird scene. The way she spoke over the other victims and tried to make it sound like he loved her the most/treated her the worst…
… It even got to the point where the doc was trying to say MM is such a freak that I felt the doc was taking that image of him and being like see, he really is that bad twisted guy - wasn't it easy to believe? And I am by no means defending the guy, but there's weird people who are into weird sh*t that wouldn't hurt a fly. Not to say that's him, I just dislike people using stereotypes to try and shape my opinion. It feels like such low hanging fruit.
Fox says that if Manson’s defamation trial occurs, it ought to be “fun” seeing his various accusers exposed; I suspect that a few of them will “turn” before that happens. If HBO is forced to defend itself about why it aired this smear-doc without properly vetting it (especially after Smithline was prominently showcased), we will likely get a taste of how Heard was able to smear Johnny Depp in the UK trial. For all involved in this miscarriage of justice, Fox suggests that this biblical injunction is in order:
Of course it would have been easy to avoid all of this, as Heard failed to learn: just stop lying about being a "victim," especially when you had choices.
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